In this interview broadcast July 29, 2021, the discussion starts with the reasons why I believe the term HICE (Human Initiated Contact Event might be superior to the popular designation CE-5 (Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind): HICE is a description of the activity itself. CE-5 instead requires a detailed explanation. I point out that the Peruvian contact network Rama (now called Rahma) got started two decades before the CE-5 Initiative was launched. People all over the world are being contacted mentally to stage Human Initiated Contact Events without having to learn the meaning of the CE-5 designation, so why not use a direct term. Using the CE-5 term necessitates an explanation of the Hynek-Vallee categories CE-1 thru CE-4. These Close Encounter designations are part of a supposedly “scientific” ufological schema. But is “ufology” a science or a pseudo-science? In science researchers attempt to rigidly control the conditions of experiments, but in UFO related encounters, the underlying non-human agents responsible for the phenomena control where, when the sightings will occur and how many UFOs will be made visible. Via telepathy they can specifically target who the witnesses will be for the contact events THAT THEY CONTROL! Given these parameters, science…
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